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Scots grow concerned that Sharia law may be on the way
Tajikistan News.Net Thursday 9th October, 2008
Residents of Scotland are concerned Sharia courts, which have been operational in England for more than a year, will soon be set up in Scottish cities.
Secret talks are said to be underway to bring Sharia courts to Edinburgh and Glasgow.
The move is being opposed by some sections of Scottish society, who have been vocal in pointing out that attempts to set up Sharia courts in Canada in 2005 had also failed after protests.
Qamar Bhatti, director of the Muslim Arbitration Tribunal, which runs the courts, admitted secret discussions were taking place with lawyers and Muslim community groups in Scotland.
Sharia law is an Islamic legal system, derived from the Koran.
It covers every aspect of a Muslim's life and day-to-day conduct.
In September, it emerged that five Sharia courts, ruling on civil cases from divorce to domestic violence and financial disputes, had been operating for more than a year in London, Birmingham, Bradford, Manchester and Warwickshire in England.
The courts have legal powers, and their decisions are enforceable through the English county courts or high courts.
They deal with a range of issues, including marriage, divorce, family and financial disputes.
Decisions are collectively made by three to six scholars and imams.
However, concerns have been raised in England about the establishment of a dual legal system.
Womenβs domestic violence opponents have also voiced fears, saying traditional Sharia law arbitration is dangerous and inappropriate in cases of abuse, due to the patriarchal nature of the Muslim culture.
The move to establish Sharia courts has sharply divided opinion among Scotland's Muslims.
Some defend the right of the Muslim community to rule on its own affairs.
But, Bill Aitken, the Scottish Tory justice spokesman, has said: "Informal private arrangements between individual members of the Muslim community are one thing, but in criminal matters, Scottish courts must have total jurisdiction. We cannot have private arrangements when human rights are an issue." Email this story to a friend
Comments on this story
calm-heart 10-09-08, 09:58 AM |
sharia is a complete way of life & a just system.
Whats the problem? It is only muslims who want sharia for themselves & not for anyone else. Man-made laws have flaws & part of the reason why society is in decline today is precisely because of that. The muslims believe that this law is from God. It is equally just to rich,poor, men, women, criminal. black or white. Sharis isnt institutionally racist like our police, corrupt like our politicians & unjust where a drunkard can get away with murdering innocent lives & on basis of dominished responsibility. Sharia isnt just about chopping hands & stoning. Get a life ppl & read about what sharia really means. Look at the world today & look at what interest based banking has brought us? Then look islamic financing which is virtually untouched by the collapse of these gree-driven, interest based financial banking institutes. Dont jump the gun. have an educated discussion & ask open questions. Whats the point in duscussing when hearts are already closed?
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calm-heart 10-09-08, 10:00 AM |
sharia is a complete way of life & a just system.
Whats the problem ppl? It is only muslims who want sharia for themselves & not for anyone else. Man-made laws have flaws & part of the reason why society is in decline today is precisely because of that. The muslims believe that this law is from God. It is equally just to rich,poor, men, women, criminal. black or white. Sharis isnt institutionally racist like our police, corrupt like our politicians & unjust where a drunkard can get away with murdering innocent lives & on basis of dominished responsibility. Sharia isnt just about chopping hands & stoning. Get a life ppl & read about what sharia really means. Look at the world today & look at what interest based banking has brought us? Then look islamic financing which is virtually untouched by the collapse of these gree-driven, interest based financial banking institutes. Dont jump the gun. have an educated discussion & ask open questions. Whats the point in duscussing when hearts are already closed?
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calm-heart 10-09-08, 10:00 AM |
sharia is a complete way of life & a just system.
Whats the problem ppl? It is only muslims who want sharia for themselves & not for anyone else. Man-made laws have flaws & part of the reason why society is in decline today is precisely because of that. The muslims believe that this law is from God. It is equally just to rich,poor, men, women, criminal. black or white. Sharis isnt institutionally racist like our police, corrupt like our politicians & unjust where a drunkard can get away with murdering innocent lives & on basis of dominished responsibility. Sharia isnt just about chopping hands & stoning. Get a life ppl & read about what sharia really means. Look at the world today & look at what interest based banking has brought us? Then look islamic financing which is virtually untouched by the collapse of these gree-driven, interest based financial banking institutes. Dont jump the gun. have an educated discussion & ask open questions. Whats the point in duscussing when hearts are already closed?
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calm-heart 10-09-08, 10:02 AM |
sharia is a complete way of life & a just system.
Whats the problem ppl? It is only muslims who want sharia for themselves & not for anyone else. Man-made laws have flaws & part of the reason why society is in decline today is precisely because of that. The muslims believe that this law is from God. It is equally just to rich,poor, men, women, criminal. black or white. Sharis isnt institutionally racist like our police, corrupt like our politicians & unjust where a drunkard can get away with murdering innocent lives & on basis of dominished responsibility. Sharia isnt just about chopping hands & stoning. Get a life ppl & read about what sharia really means. Look at the world today & look at what interest based banking has brought us? Then look islamic financing which is virtually untouched by the collapse of these gree-driven, interest based financial banking institutes. Dont jump the gun. have an educated discussion & ask open questions. Whats the point in duscussing when hearts are already closed?
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xaragma 10-09-08, 08:15 AM |
Scots grow concerned that Sharia law may be on the way
The Iron Burka continues to fall upon Britain
and the once-free world.
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calm-heart 10-09-08, 10:02 AM |
sharia is a complete way of life & a just system.
Whats the problem ppl? It is only muslims who want sharia for themselves & not for anyone else. Man-made laws have flaws & part of the reason why society is in decline today is precisely because of that. The muslims believe that this law is from God. It is equally just to rich,poor, men, women, criminal. black or white. Sharis isnt institutionally racist like our police, corrupt like our politicians & unjust where a drunkard can get away with murdering innocent lives & on basis of dominished responsibility. Sharia isnt just about chopping hands & stoning. Get a life ppl & read about what sharia really means. Look at the world today & look at what interest based banking has brought us? Then look islamic financing which is virtually untouched by the collapse of these gree-driven, interest based financial banking institutes. Dont jump the gun. have an educated discussion & ask open questions. Whats the point in duscussing when hearts are already closed?
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aster 10-09-08, 08:45 AM |
yes and the govt is blind and deaf.
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` ~galljdaj+ 10-09-08, 08:58 AM |
Got to be... !!!
And an absolute backwards decision for the Rule of Law! dUMB! wRONG!
All Law for a Society must be equal and appliy to all. Therefore in a mixed culture only applications of Law that can be Law are laws that still apply to all.
Newcomers, cannot by nature od Rule of Law, bring laws with them, and any immigration allowed must be part of the agreement. Stay home if you cannot abide by the house rules.
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Sammy 10-09-08, 09:25 AM |
When in Rome do as the Romans do
Western society has established laws that protect all sector of society, and this is good.
All those that want to be part of the Western society, must abide to its laws, either bad or good,
People that come to a Western society must abide to its laws, they cannot bring their laws with them, and establish their own laws in a Western society.
It is absurd that England lets these Muslim practice their Sharia laws in British soil, even if it only involves the Muslims, this is somehing like establishing a state within a state.
Sammy
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galljdaj 10-09-08, 10:34 AM |
Why leave your home country?
calm-heart;108063: Whats the problem ppl? It is only muslims who want sharia for themselves & not for anyone else. Man-made laws have flaws & part of the reason why society is in decline today is precisely because of that. The muslims believe that this law is from God. It is equally just to rich,poor, men, women, criminal. black or white. Sharis isnt institutionally racist like our police, corrupt like our politicians & unjust where a drunkard can get away with murdering innocent lives & on basis of dominished responsibility. Sharia isnt just about chopping hands & stoning. Get a life ppl & read about what sharia really means. Look at the world today & look at what interest based banking has brought us? Then look islamic financing which is virtually untouched by the collapse of these gree-driven, interest based financial banking institutes. Dont jump the gun. have an educated discussion & ask open questions. Whats the point in duscussing when hearts are already closed?
The laws on the books are fine!
Sharia belongs in Muslim countries go back to where ever you came from IF you want Sharia law!
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Calm.com 10-09-08, 02:06 PM |
Sharia's opportunistic.
calm-heart;108063: Whats the problem ppl? It is only muslims who want sharia for themselves & not for anyone else. Man-made laws have flaws & part of the reason why society is in decline today is precisely because of that. The muslims believe that this law is from God. It is equally just to rich,poor, men, women, criminal. black or white. Sharis isnt institutionally racist like our police, corrupt like our politicians & unjust where a drunkard can get away with murdering innocent lives & on basis of dominished responsibility. Sharia isnt just about chopping hands & stoning. Get a life ppl & read about what sharia really means. Look at the world today & look at what interest based banking has brought us? Then look islamic financing which is virtually untouched by the collapse of these gree-driven, interest based financial banking institutes. Dont jump the gun. have an educated discussion & ask open questions. Whats the point in duscussing when hearts are already closed?
You musselimen are not the only cult, that’s the fundamental muslim problem, you, you, you period. Even though the british law is manmade that doesn’t mean your 5th century throwback camel law is any better. We will come out of the closet eventually to deal with your shameless deeds. We are willing to educate you camel piss drinkers but don’t bet your camel a33 on it.
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godsilla 10-09-08, 05:08 PM |
oh mother
calm-heart;108063: Whats the problem ppl? It is only muslims who want sharia for themselves & not for anyone else. Man-made laws have flaws & part of the reason why society is in decline today is precisely because of that. The muslims believe that this law is from God. It is equally just to rich,poor, men, women, criminal. black or white. Sharis isnt institutionally racist like our police, corrupt like our politicians & unjust where a drunkard can get away with murdering innocent lives & on basis of dominished responsibility. Sharia isnt just about chopping hands & stoning. Get a life ppl & read about what sharia really means. Look at the world today & look at what interest based banking has brought us? Then look islamic financing which is virtually untouched by the collapse of these gree-driven, interest based financial banking institutes. Dont jump the gun. have an educated discussion & ask open questions. Whats the point in duscussing when hearts are already closed?
calm-heart, after reading your post I feel terribly sorry for you. Too bad your mother threw her hands up on you. I sympathized with her.
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` ~galljdaj+ 10-09-08, 11:07 AM |
Our poor lil theif and coward advises(10:34am)...
... , “go home”, like he follows his own advice! He steals a name to impersonate me and then talks about other go home for not following Our Law!
Poor lil sick psychopath!
Funny thing what his fears have created in him! Laughable but sad!
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` ~galljdaj+ 10-09-08, 12:31 PM |
Calm heart advice is sound indeed, yet, I still have questions ...
... , especially about the reasons for discussion regarding the incorporation of dual tripple quaddrouple, etc. Rule of Laws.
Law by its adversarial nature in seeking 'truth' is increasingly complex compared to our previous Both parties cooperating to find the truth! Adding multiple Rules of Laws, makes no sense at all to me. So what is to be gained in the discussion, merely showing an open mind?
Why not those that want to add Sharia Law to Our Society influence the rest of us by their acts and good will, and then present the improvement that we will all share? Such is the Intent of Our Way of Life. Such is part of what has attracted the immigrant.
If sharia law is important, than immagration is of a lower value. The choice has to be the decider of the value, and the agreement.
So 'calm', why the discussions and what is the agenda?
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Anonymous 10-09-08, 01:59 PM |
More spilt milk
` ~galljdaj+;108079: ... , “go home”, like he follows his own advice! He steals a name to impersonate me and then talks about other go home for not following Our Law!
Poor lil sick psychopath!
Funny thing what his fears have created in him! Laughable but sad!
Stupidity is a bitter pill to swallow and not registering on this site even as of today means you get to swallow that pill over and over.
You have spilt your milk on the cookies and now they are covered in thicj dark green mold.
Good on you Spilt milk and moldy cookies now throw in some tears and foot stamping a screaming “mine mine mine mine” Except it’s not your name on this site it’s mine to do as I see fit. You can see this by my ability to log into this name and post without the moderator screening the post it’s also tied to a valid e-mail address. Remember the rule of possession.
Hell I even gave you fair warning and you ignored it so I registered the name and have watched you squeel ever since.
“Can you squeel like a pig?"
I remember full well the opening of .Dotcom craze and domain name fights.
You want the name galljdaj uncontested on this site what do you offer after all we do live in a society of Capitolism “for now”.
Please leave the foot stamping tantrum and tirades at the door.
I believe you can still register the name girliejihad for free.
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godsilla 10-09-08, 01:30 PM |
Gods' dumb creation.
Muslims are despised everywhere they go even in their own country. The moment they have a taste of power they go BONKERS en mass, muslims killing muslims. Infidels are dead meat. They are quiet and obedient only when ruled by Mr. Saddam Whosane?. For those who cherish FREEDOM. We have to find the Reincarnation of Saddam Whosane to rule the UK. Well! we may not have our FREEDOM then. I guess we are schrewd either way.
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the believer 10-09-08, 03:27 PM |
to the dumboose of the society
Calm.com
10-09-08, 02:06 PM
You musselimen are not the only cult, thatâs the fundamental muslim problem, you, you, you period. Even though the british law is manmade that doesnât mean your 5th century throwback camel law is any better. We will come out of the closet eventually to deal with your shameless deeds. We are willing to educate you camel piss drinkers but donât bet your camel a33 on it.
these few infidels co** blowers ~galljdaj+, Calm.com,Sammy
are the rubbish of society, for them every little thing is a big issue, they are the pig piss drinkers,they are pigs, and they behave like pigs,how much you advice to the pigs they will do wat they like, the world is not belong to your father or mother you stupid pigs, do not bark like a dog, just behave like a humen,muslim can go to any place they like its ALLAH world, if you are a humen you will understand this but if you give another comment against it than you must b the stupidest ******* pig,read between the line...
sharia’s law is from GOD not from humen, its not enough that you wana ceate your own,
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Anonymous 10-09-08, 03:36 PM |
godsilla by the looks of it you and the rest of the dickheads here who don’t know “day from night”, you are absolutely right, all of you are schrewd (or was that meant to be screwed?) Islamophobes, and God knows what else!
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Anonymous 10-09-08, 03:47 PM |
God?
the believer;108125: Calm.com
10-09-08, 02:06 PM
You musselimen are not the only cult, thatâs the fundamental muslim problem, you, you, you period. Even though the british law is manmade that doesnât mean your 5th century throwback camel law is any better. We will come out of the closet eventually to deal with your shameless deeds. We are willing to educate you camel piss drinkers but donât bet your camel a33 on it.
these few infidels co** blowers ~galljdaj+, Calm.com,Sammy
are the rubbish of society, for them every little thing is a big issue, they are the pig piss drinkers,they are pigs, and they behave like pigs,how much you advice to the pigs they will do wat they like, the world is not belong to your father or mother you stupid pigs, do not bark like a dog, just behave like a humen,muslim can go to any place they like its ALLAH world, if you are a humen you will understand this but if you give another comment against it than you must b the stupidest ******* pig,read between the line...
sharia’s law is from GOD not from humen, its not enough that you wana ceate your own,
I see nothing divine in the Koran or Sharia law.
Simply because some Arab had visions 1200 years ago does not mean they where devine.
He even believed he was possessed or more likely brain damaged that part is quickly silenced by threats or simply forgotten.
Thats the beauty of places like this even a donkey like you can bray your stupidity mush brained comments or Sammy who I have yet to agree with or the other moron special character guy galljdaj.
Don’t like it turn off your computer and throw it in the dumpster because viewing it is breaking ISLAMIC LAW after all you can view pictures of other people!
Lay down with dogs you might get fleas.
Hangout with muslims you might not only get fleas but they may just chop your head off. = (
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godsilla 10-09-08, 04:58 PM |
Go Cry
Unregistered;108130: godsilla by the looks of it you and the rest of the dickheads here who don’t know “day from night”, you are absolutely right, all of you are schrewd (or was that meant to be screwed?) Islamophobes, and God knows what else!
Go cry to your Father in Hell.
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;) Midnight 10-09-08, 04:00 PM |
Like shariah would be so very hard to do since it’s been written down for so many years that everyone understands it. It’s not like, “I pulled over to be safe and fell asleep here talking on the phone so ticket me." How very absurd. I even know exactly when I fell asleep. Someone is very upset about his useless phone.
I swear the turns in life. How one woman can say 60 days and mean 30, she might be one.
I do believe they think for months to argue. If we could just throw away everything but the Qur’an and stick with it we have it going on now.
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;) Midnight 10-09-08, 04:01 PM |
Calm heart, cold blood. /
Cold blood, cooler engines.
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Sammy 10-09-08, 04:47 PM |
Closed minds
the believer
10-09-08, 03:27 PM
Yes my friend: I do feel sorry for you, because you have a closed mind, but then I do respect your choice to keep your closed mind, if that is your free choice.
But if this closed mind is being forced upon you by a backward culture that wants to teach a progressive culture to go back to the dark days of history, where people were forced to be kept with a closed mind, then I must rebel with all my streingth to defend your right to have access to the progressive culture if you choose it.
But I am totally against for you to come to a progressive culture and try it to bring it back to the dark days of history where fanatics controlled people’s minds, like they have, and are controling yours.
Ignorance is not stupidity, because if one is aware he will have a chance to realize that his teaching is and has been wrong, but if one is stupid, he will go back into his spider hole and practice the stupidity that has been taught to him by his fanatic believers.
You see, my friend: For this reason I consider myself a free thinker, because I decide for myself, and I try not to be manipulated by others and their teachings, because I have learned to evaluate things for myself, and I decide for myself, not having others deciding for me, and I do believe this is what is lacking in many religions, not mentioning any religion in particular, but I do believe all religions are the same, they capture people’s minds, prevending them from thinking for themselves.
Sammy, A free thinker, hoping others will be able to think for themselves freely.
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the believer 10-10-08, 02:32 PM |
to the big dumboo
Anonymous
10-09-08, 03:47 PM
now im sure you are such stupid pig, i told you not to comment abt this any more, but you not seem to b using your bloody brain, now i must put the pig shit into your mouth and chop your headoff like a pig!!!
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the believer 10-10-08, 02:50 PM |
to the big dumboo
Anonymous
10-09-08, 03:36 PM
godsilla by the looks of it you and the rest of the dickheads here who donât know âday from nightâ, you are absolutely right, all of you are schrewd (or was that meant to be screwed?) Islamophobes, and God knows what else!
you stupid pig anonymous its not you talking but your asshole,do not think of other’s as dickheads as i know as a faggot you always love to blow on it (dickhead ), your kind of faggots are always love it like a lollypup, right son?????
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Taki 10-18-08, 04:39 AM |
What a farce
You can’t have 2 separate laws governering a country. It’s wrong and illegal. Would a Pakistani judge apply Western laws on non-Muslims in Pakistan? I doubt it, this whole scenario and discussion is a joke. I canât believe these people who want Sharia live in the Western world let alone want Sharia in the UK. Go back home to suicide bombers, poverty, sewers, corruption, uneducated country of origin, beheadings, honor killings, hand cut off for stealing a candy bar, 1000 lashes for drinking a beer, etc. Why do you live in the UK, you live in the UK to get away from the madness which identifies the Muslim world? It’s because you are so confused and refuse to integrate in your new home that you want Sharia. Try fitting in? Try picking up the habits of the country you now live in, my god I mean is it that hard?? If so please go back home and preach Sharia all you want to the underprivelied, uneducated, ignorant populist that is the majority of the Muslim world. You are nothing back in your country of origins and you know it thatâs what you have run away and settled in the West. I feel sorry for you kids born in the West who you brain wash from the day that they are born into actually beliving this crap.
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Anonymous 10-19-08, 12:18 PM |
If this article was headlined Mosaic law none of you would be commenting on it because it’s Jewish. But if you ask me I don’t see the difference besides a name. Shari,a Jewish, Christian Praise god and pass the ammunition huh?
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